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Profile m.mitch
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Message 7761 - Posted: 11 Aug 2008 | 14:43:02 UTC

While I undetrstand Pirates isn't a credit feast, no credit at all kind of sucks.

I'm due to grab another position in just 106 days, at the rate it'll never happen. :-(

stderr out
<core_client_version>5.8.15</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
Hello, stderr!
APP: compiled with BOINC version 6.3.6
APP: graphics are now in a separate program.
WORKER: finished RC=0
Blow me down!
called boinc_finish

</stderr_txt>
]]>

Validate state Initial
Claimed credit 0
Granted credit 0
application version 6.01

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Message 7764 - Posted: 11 Aug 2008 | 15:44:33 UTC

Your CPU time is also zero. Not zero point oh one two as for most of us. No, just zero. Since credits here are still calculated at benchmark * run-time, with a run-time of zero, your credit is zero.

Looks like a bug in the application though. Everyone's returning zero second tasks. I'll see if I can pull Eric down to our level.
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Message 7765 - Posted: 11 Aug 2008 | 15:51:52 UTC
Last modified: 11 Aug 2008 | 15:53:02 UTC

Please look at the other thread:

Yello 6.01

With the test of yello instead of hello the timecounting doesn't work anymore. So everyone has zero seconds and receives only 0,001 credit per WU.
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Message 7769 - Posted: 12 Aug 2008 | 2:14:19 UTC
Last modified: 12 Aug 2008 | 2:24:48 UTC

well, it looks like I did not read the comments before this post, and now appreciate Kalessin & Jord's prior comments....

I still find this project interesting....look at this WU for credit....0.00

application yello - Simplest BOINC graphics application
created 11 Aug 2008 19:28:17 UTC
name wu_1218454091_1439
canonical result 1598552
granted credit 0.00
minimum quorum 2
initial replication 2
max # of error/total/success results 3, 7, 7
Result ID
click for details Computer Sent Time reported
or deadline
explain Server state
explain Outcome
explain Client state
explain CPU time (sec) claimed credit granted credit
1598552 52270 11 Aug 2008 19:28:26 UTC 11 Aug 2008 19:30:27 UTC Over Success Done 0.00 0.00 0.00
1598553 46725 11 Aug 2008 19:28:27 UTC 11 Aug 2008 19:30:00 UTC Over Success Done 0.00 0.00 0.00

it shows a zero credit....
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but,look at this same one again and it is really granting a 0.001 credit....I have not seen this before...
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Result ID 1598553
Name wu_1218454091_1439_1
Workunit 739819
Created 11 Aug 2008 19:28:22 UTC
Sent 11 Aug 2008 19:28:27 UTC
Received 11 Aug 2008 19:30:00 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Success
Client state Done
Exit status 0 (0x0)
Computer ID 46725
Report deadline 12 Aug 2008 20:28:27 UTC
CPU time 0
stderr out

6.2.14

Hello, stderr!
APP: compiled with BOINC version 6.3.6
APP: graphics are now in a separate program.
WORKER: finished RC=0
Blow me down!
called boinc_finish


]]>

Validate state Valid
Claimed credit 0
Granted credit 0.001
application version 6.01

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Message 7770 - Posted: 12 Aug 2008 | 11:38:46 UTC

I think I understand the problem.

When I converted this application to the new graphics API I enabled the option "backward_compatible_graphics", so that it would still work with the BOINC 5 clients. (See the table under "Compatibility" in the GraphicsApi page.) When I was looking at the options I also found one called "main_program", and figured I had best set that as well. After all, this was the "main program", not the "graphics program".

Well, it turns out that's not quite right. The "main_program" option is for compound applications -- applications made up of several programs which run together or one after the other. In that case they are launched by the "main" program, which should not be keeping track of its own CPU time, because it is the programs it runs under it which are doing the work.

So we will try turning that option off and see if that gives people proper credit.


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