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Right now work is restricted to BOINC v6. If a v5 client contacts the server the Pirates team field is wiped blank (and stats aren’t updated) in the BOINC manager. Similar to problems discovered here a long while back. "It's déjà vu all over again"? ____________ Click and enter your name for your BOINC Statistics
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Got this message: 14.04.2008 17:44:51\|Pirates@Home\|Message from server: Your version of the BOINC core client (5.10.28) is temporarily disallowed for testing. Never seen this message. ____________
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Scheduler restrictions won't give work to any other client than the 6.1.14 ... so even a 6.1.12 won't get work. The test is for 6.1.14 only. ____________ Jord. The BOINC FAQ Service.
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Contact wrote: Right now work is restricted to BOINC v6. If a v5 client contacts the server the Pirates team field is wiped blank (and stats aren’t updated) in the BOINC manager. Similar to problems discovered here a long while back. "It's déjà vu all over again"? What was the fix? ____________ -- Eric Myers "Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire." -- William Butler Yeats
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Finally found the relevant thread: Team not showing in BOINC manager After trying out the nowork_skip tag: Wormholio wrote: So what happens is, the client connects to the server, but gets back a very terse (perhaps even more or less empty) reply, and from that the client concludes that you don't belong to a team, and it also doesn't update any of your other stats. Your last time of contact is not updated in the database because the database never got contacted. I can understand that most stats won't get updated, but the loss of the team is indeed confusing. This probably deserves a Trac ticket as a bug. [edit]I just posted it[/edit] If you are in a team, but the RPC response doesn't mention a team, then don't make any changes. It's possible that the current RPC response has a blank team entry (rather than none at all). I'm sure that's easily fixed by those who know how to do it. I'll bet they can apply the same principle to other items in the RPC response, though it might also require some changes in how the client processes the response. I will leave that to the RPC experts. ____________ Click and enter your name for your BOINC Statistics
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Contact wrote: Finally found the relevant thread: Team not showing in BOINC manager Well done. Thank you. This was reported in Trac as ticket # 417, but it was assigned to Bruce Allen because it seemed like a server issue. As Nicolas notes in the ticket, it seems more likely the change needs to be made to the client. I added a note to the ticket about this other way of producing the behavior, and changed the component to "Client" , which seems to have reassigned it to David. ____________ -- Eric Myers "Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire." -- William Butler Yeats
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I'm using version 6.1.14 now but when trying to fetch new work I'm getting 15.04.2008 21:40:50\|Pirates@Home\|[error][error] handle_trickle_down failed: unexpected null pointer What the heck is that? ;-))) ____________ Arrrrr! I'm a proud member o' the pirates' ship crew BOINC@Heidelberg
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Hatte ich auch, machte aber nichts, danach kamen die Units an Bord! Viel Glück und gute Jagd! I had the same Problem, but it didn't matter, just after the message the work came to me! ____________ Dragons can fly because they don't fit into pirate ships
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Danke, hab ich inzwischen auch gemerkt und zwei neue "Goldnuggets" runtergeladen! gg Yeah, thanks - I noticed that I have dowloaded two fresh gold nuggets again! :-) ____________ Arrrrr! I'm a proud member o' the pirates' ship crew BOINC@Heidelberg
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Cori wrote: What the heck is that? ;-))) http://pirates.spy-hill.net/forum_thread.php?id=922 ____________ Jord. The BOINC FAQ Service.
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Client restriction is now 6.1.14 and above. This is because 6.1.15 is released to Alpha for the Mac and Linux. Let's hope that the Linux versions will now return work without errors. ____________ Jord. The BOINC FAQ Service.
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As far as we could see a project can require a boinc version of x.x.x or higher. Can a project than also exclude one or two special versions of the boinc client? ____________ Dragons can fly because they don't fit into pirate ships
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Yes. ____________ Jord. The BOINC FAQ Service.
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Thanks Jord. Is there a reason why you left out the now popular 6.1.0? Did we use this kind of restrictions here at pirates before? Will we? ____________ Dragons can fly because they don't fit into pirate ships
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I didn't leave anything out as I didn't write that. It's only an example of a scheduler restriction. Admins can add more of them if they want to. ____________ Jord. The BOINC FAQ Service.
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Message 7519 - Posted 14 Apr 2008 3:40:12 UTC

Right now work is restricted to BOINC v6.
If a v5 client contacts the server the Pirates team field is wiped blank (and stats aren’t updated) in the BOINC manager.
Similar to problems discovered here a long while back.
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Got this message:

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Never seen this message.
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Message 7526 - Posted 14 Apr 2008 22:22:08 UTC

Scheduler restrictions won't give work to any other client than the 6.1.14 ... so even a 6.1.12 won't get work. The test is for 6.1.14 only.
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Message 7527 - Posted 14 Apr 2008 23:06:23 UTC - in response to Message ID 7519.

Contact wrote:

Right now work is restricted to BOINC v6.
If a v5 client contacts the server the Pirates team field is wiped blank (and stats aren’t updated) in the BOINC manager.
Similar to problems discovered here a long while back.
"It's déjà vu all over again"?

What was the fix?

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Message 7528 - Posted 15 Apr 2008 2:37:47 UTC - in response to Message ID 7527.

Finally found the relevant thread:
Team not showing in BOINC manager

After trying out the nowork_skip tag:

Wormholio wrote:

So what happens is, the client connects to the server, but gets back a very terse (perhaps even more or less empty) reply, and from that the client concludes that you don't belong to a team, and it also doesn't update any of your other stats. Your last time of contact is not updated in the database because the database never got contacted.

I can understand that most stats won't get updated, but the loss of the team is indeed confusing. This probably deserves a Trac ticket as a bug. [edit]I just posted it[/edit] If you are in a team, but the RPC response doesn't mention a team, then don't make any changes. It's possible that the current RPC response has a blank team entry (rather than none at all).

I'm sure that's easily fixed by those who know how to do it. I'll bet they can apply the same principle to other items in the RPC response, though it might also require some changes in how the client processes the response. I will leave that to the RPC experts.

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Message 7534 - Posted 15 Apr 2008 11:56:26 UTC - in response to Message ID 7528.
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Contact wrote:

Finally found the relevant thread:
Team not showing in BOINC manager

Well done. Thank you.

This was reported in Trac as ticket # 417, but it was assigned to Bruce Allen because it seemed like a server issue. As Nicolas notes in the ticket, it seems more likely the change needs to be made to the client. I added a note to the ticket about this other way of producing the behavior, and changed the component to "Client" , which seems to have reassigned it to David.

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Message 7538 - Posted 15 Apr 2008 19:43:26 UTC

I'm using version 6.1.14 now but when trying to fetch new work I'm getting

15.04.2008 21:40:50|Pirates@Home|[error][error] handle_trickle_down failed: unexpected null pointer

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Message 7539 - Posted 15 Apr 2008 20:14:21 UTC - in response to Message ID 7538.

Hatte ich auch, machte aber nichts, danach kamen die Units an Bord!
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I had the same Problem, but it didn't matter, just after the message the work came to me!
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Message 7540 - Posted 15 Apr 2008 20:19:41 UTC - in response to Message ID 7539.

Danke, hab ich inzwischen auch gemerkt und zwei neue "Goldnuggets" runtergeladen! *gg*

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Message 7542 - Posted 15 Apr 2008 20:27:42 UTC - in response to Message ID 7538.

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What the heck is that? ;-)))

http://pirates.spy-hill.net/forum_thread.php?id=922
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Message 7544 - Posted 15 Apr 2008 23:18:46 UTC

Client restriction is now 6.1.14 and above. This is because 6.1.15 is released to Alpha for the Mac and Linux. Let's hope that the Linux versions will now return work without errors.
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Message 7567 - Posted 30 Apr 2008 13:12:53 UTC

As far as we could see a project can require a boinc version of x.x.x or higher.

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Message 7569 - Posted 30 Apr 2008 13:47:04 UTC - in response to Message ID 7568.

Thanks Jord.

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Message 7570 - Posted 30 Apr 2008 14:12:25 UTC - in response to Message ID 7569.

I didn't leave anything out as I didn't write that. It's only an example of a scheduler restriction. Admins can add more of them if they want to.
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