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Message 7488 - Posted: 10 Apr 2008 | 20:52:02 UTC
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The United Federation of Planets, huh? That'll burn in pretty quickly. I wonder how LCARS copes with that. :-)

Ah, I see that the ISS is starting to come together... boxy thing though.
Very nice spacial effect on the graphics. Look at them long enough and you're getting space sick. So TGF TUFoP. :-)
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Message 7489 - Posted: 10 Apr 2008 | 21:08:30 UTC

Ok, what now?

4/10/2008 5:05:05 PM|Pirates@Home|Message from server: Need version 6.1 or higher of the BOINC core client. You have 5.10.





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Message 7490 - Posted: 10 Apr 2008 | 21:32:28 UTC

OK, they run over 100% again. It's now waiting to run at 100.887%

@RDC, if you don't want to risk installing 6.1.14 for fear of losing work (a real possibility), then there's nothing you can do in this test run. Not unless Eric compiles a 5.10 compatible version as well.
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Message 7492 - Posted: 10 Apr 2008 | 23:27:06 UTC - in response to Message 7489.

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Ok, what now?
4/10/2008 5:05:05 PM|Pirates@Home|Message from server: Need version 6.1 or higher of the BOINC core client. You have 5.10.


Sit tight, it's only for this test run.

The call went out to projects to test their apps with the 6.1.14 client, which the alpha crew are now testing. So I brought out the last version of lalanne we already ran to try it out, and I bumped the client requirement up to 6.1 so that they would get the work. After this run I'll bring it back down.


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Message 7494 - Posted: 11 Apr 2008 | 1:12:06 UTC - in response to Message 7490.

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OK, they run over 100% again. It's now waiting to run at 100.887%

Just before the v6 restriction, I had one run over 200% on Win98. At that point I exited and restarted BOINC and the wu restarted and finished ok at 100%
(but this time I did not activate graphics or screen saver).

Also...
Graphics works as before but on the 2nd activation of the screen saver or graphics I see only a white background with the spinning cube. This happens on all machines I've checked for this.
Keeping with the Yogi-isms ... "It's déjà vu all over again" theme, I remember this happening many months (years?) ago with certain project graphics. Proteins@home comes to mind.
I haven't seen this problem for a long time.

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Message 7496 - Posted: 11 Apr 2008 | 4:44:03 UTC - in response to Message 7489.

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Ok, what now?

4/10/2008 5:05:05 PM|Pirates@Home|Message from server: Need version 6.1 or higher of the BOINC core client. You have 5.10.




I got the same on MirBSD (with 5.10.45), but funnily, I did get a
work unit on Linux (with 5.10.45 as well).

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Trying 6.x on MirBSD now.

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Message 7499 - Posted: 11 Apr 2008 | 7:02:09 UTC - in response to Message 7494.

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Just before the v6 restriction, I had one run over 200% on Win98. At that point I exited and restarted BOINC and the wu restarted and finished ok at 100% (but this time I did not activate graphics or screen saver).

I think I know why this is. These tasks are supposed to run for 1 hour of CPU time. Yet in wall-clock time that is, on my system at least, around 51 minutes. I have had one of them restart a couple of times now during the night.

I've suspended all other projects to see how long it will now take the Pirates task to complete itself. CPU time is increasing and well over the 1 hour runtime mark. Yet this is external time showing, not internal as the task restarted from zero percent.

On a normal application switch-over time of 60 minutes, these Pirate tasks will never finish in time, unless they're in deadline priority mode and run alone.
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Message 7500 - Posted: 11 Apr 2008 | 7:58:37 UTC
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So in the end it ran for 59 wall-clock minutes. Just showing a lot longer due to all the restarts.

Running the second one I have, see if it goes in one go, when I adjust the switch between applications time to 70 minutes.
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Message 7501 - Posted: 11 Apr 2008 | 9:05:14 UTC

11-Apr-08 9:55:02|Pirates@Home|Starting wu_1207839011_334_2
11-Apr-08 9:55:02|Pirates@Home|Starting task wu_1207839011_334_2 using lalanne version 506
11-Apr-08 10:55:44|Pirates@Home|Computation for task wu_1207839011_334_2 finished

There you have it. It runs more than 1 hour in wall-clock time. Even though the CPU time says it didn't: 2980 seconds.

The switch application runs in wall-clock time though. So if you have it set to switch at 60 minutes, it'll do so. Whether the Pirates task is done or not. And since the checkpointing on the Pirates task seems to either not work or is non-existent, it'll restart from zero when it restarts on its next 60 minute run.
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Message 7502 - Posted: 11 Apr 2008 | 12:09:35 UTC - in response to Message 7501.

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And since the checkpointing on the Pirates task seems to either not work or is non-existent, it'll restart from zero when it restarts on its next 60 minute run.

It should checkpoint after each MC simulation, so if it's not doing that correctly then there is a bug.

It should also stop after it finishes a MC simulation if the CPU time is over 3600 sec. That should be accumulated, even if it's been stopped and restarted. If not, that should be looked at.


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Message 7504 - Posted: 11 Apr 2008 | 13:15:28 UTC - in response to Message 7502.

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It should checkpoint after each MC simulation, so if it's not doing that correctly then there is a bug.

It says it checkpoints, but it doesn't resume from any last checkpoint when the application restarts at a later time. It restarts from zero percent.

It should also stop after it finishes a MC simulation if the CPU time is over 3600 sec. That should be accumulated, even if it's been stopped and restarted. If not, that should be looked at.

As I pointed out, the first one restarted multiple times. The CPU time in the end was 8923.109375 seconds.

The second one only ran for 3642 seconds, wall-clock time. CPU time was never near the 3600 seconds mark.
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Message 7522 - Posted: 14 Apr 2008 | 14:35:43 UTC

Graphics are stuttering very much in the present run, each time it tries to do a trickle up or down.
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