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Message 7390 - Posted: 1 Apr 2008 | 17:16:30 UTC

Don't forget to watch for hidden messages.
Do look at the new Simple View slide show.
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Message 7392 - Posted: 1 Apr 2008 | 17:34:55 UTC

Well, all I found was the Date/time, the words primate and monkey p. ..)

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Message 7395 - Posted: 1 Apr 2008 | 18:06:34 UTC

I must have some tainted bananas here, I don't see much of anything besides gold colored blocks...
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Message 7399 - Posted: 1 Apr 2008 | 18:34:27 UTC - in response to Message 7390.

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Don't forget to watch for hidden messages.
Do look at the new Simple View slide show.

All my primates_slide*.png files are zero-sized :-(

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Well, all I found was the Date/time, the words primate and monkey p. ..)

I've maybe seen "MONKEY DWARF", but maybe not really...
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Message 7400 - Posted: 1 Apr 2008 | 18:49:54 UTC

Ok, making progress. Simple view ::::: slaps self ::::: ... Yes, I see the slide show now that I went to simple view.

I still am not seeing any hidden messages though on the graphics, just the gold blocks but looks nice though.
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Message 7409 - Posted: 1 Apr 2008 | 19:45:22 UTC
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I've seen "Dr. Zaius", "bunches of", "codemonkey", "Roar!", "Shakespeare project", "zombiemonkey67", "apewoman", "primate", "gag monkey p.", "cat", "chimp-chat", "tag", "trading post", "monkey tools", "knuckles", "{ monkey }", "one swing r", "odiferous", "flea festival", "act", "simian", "monkey's paw",

I've found a nice bug. Show graphics, suspend the unit, graphics keep going but the timer is stopped. Looks like you could run this forever. Evidently the time isn't based upon the work left. Work is done separately and the counter only tells it how long to do it. Work keeps going even if the counter is stopped. Memory for unit 24,372K.

I got two other project units running and CPU usage for this primates shows 0%. It's a rogue process! Arrrrr!
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Message 7417 - Posted: 1 Apr 2008 | 20:46:34 UTC - in response to Message 7409.
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Clyde wrote:
I've seen "Dr. Zaius", "bunches of", "codemonkey", "Roar!", "Shakespeare project", "zombiemonkey67", "apewoman", "primate", "gag monkey p.", "cat", "chimp-chat", "tag", "trading post", "monkey tools", "knuckles", "{ monkey }", "one swing r", "odiferous", "flea festival", "act", "simian", "monkey's paw",

I've found a nice bug. Show graphics, suspend the unit, graphics keep going but the timer is stopped. Looks like you could run this forever. Evidently the time isn't based upon the work left. Work is done separately and the counter only tells it how long to do it. Work keeps going even if the counter is stopped. Memory for unit 24,372K.

I got two other project units running and CPU usage for this primates shows 0%. It's a rogue process! Arrrrr!

Arg! 60 minute edit time.

"Lice" and Memory has increased to 24,384K.
"bubbles"
"chimp"
"monkey nipples"
"act"
"scavenger"
"jungle calls"
"ay1111!" ??
"clyde"
"troop"
"banana"
"poopoo"
"cornelius"


Change one to "one suwing r"

Memory up slightly to 24,388K
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Message 7421 - Posted: 1 Apr 2008 | 21:51:24 UTC

I may be a little rusty on my genetics but aren't the random letters DNA shorthand? T C G and A? What are we looking at at the genetic level here?
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Message 7423 - Posted: 1 Apr 2008 | 21:59:40 UTC - in response to Message 7421.
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That is correct.

I found another word, "coconut". "zoo cafe"

Process is still running at 0% CPU, memory holding at 24,388K. I have a cosmo and milkyway running properly with it.
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Message 7425 - Posted: 1 Apr 2008 | 22:17:17 UTC - in response to Message 7409.

Clyde wrote:
I've found a nice bug. Show graphics, suspend the unit, graphics keep going but the timer is stopped. Looks like you could run this forever. Evidently the time isn't based upon the work left. Work is done separately and the counter only tells it how long to do it. Work keeps going even if the counter is stopped.

It was behaving like this since..... forever. And IIRC few/many other projects' graphics windows do behave the same. Especially if the displayed data has nothing (or not much) in common with the calculated science inside.

I got two other project units running and CPU usage for this primates shows 0%. It's a rogue process! Arrrrr!

It gets interesting when you manages to open a plenty of graphics windows from different projects at once, all jumping and rotating and flying around, even on a single core machine ,-)
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Message 7439 - Posted: 2 Apr 2008 | 5:23:19 UTC

“Knuckles” and “Monkeynipples”.
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Message 7447 - Posted: 2 Apr 2008 | 18:12:56 UTC

Was there a font required to be on the computer to see this? All I saw were gold blocks with what looked like symbols but they weren't clear at all. Usually I can see the letters/numbers in the graphics but not this round.
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Message 7448 - Posted: 2 Apr 2008 | 21:22:37 UTC - in response to Message 7447.

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Was there a font required to be on the computer to see this? All I saw were gold blocks with what looked like symbols but they weren't clear at all. Usually I can see the letters/numbers in the graphics but not this round.

The font is built into the executable from a xpm file.

Hmmm, gold blocks sounds like a very old version of starboard, back from when I was working out how to get the glyph images loaded. You should have downloaded the latest and greatest starboard, but maybe something prevented that? What version of the client? What platform? What version of starboard, if you can find that?

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Message 7450 - Posted: 2 Apr 2008 | 22:22:56 UTC - in response to Message 7399.
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Bubbles wrote:
Do look at the new Simple View slide show.

All my primates_slide*.png files are zero-sized :-(

Could someone kindly add the slide show into our [[Graghics gallery]]?
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Message 7453 - Posted: 2 Apr 2008 | 23:25:42 UTC - in response to Message 7409.

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I've seen "Dr. Zaius", "bunches of", "codemonkey", "Roar!", "Shakespeare project", "zombiemonkey67", "apewoman", "primate", "gag monkey p.", "cat", "chimp-chat", "tag", "trading post", "monkey tools", "knuckles", "{ monkey }", "one swing r", "odiferous", "flea festival", "act", "simian", "monkey's paw",

Here are all for sure:

Shakespeare Project, Zoo Cafe, Primate Tools, Trading Post, Troop Chat, Flea Festival, Chimp-chat, Ayiiii!, Jungle Calls, SCAVENGER, Simian, { monkey }, CodeMonkey, Odiferous, Clyde, chimp, Bubbles, Apewoman, Dr. Zaius, Peepoo, Monkey P., Monkeynipples, zombiemonkey67, Monkey's Paw, Bunches of, bunches of, banana, coconut, primate, Primate, troop, Cornelius, Lice, Knuckles, One Suwing E, Roar!

Taken from inside starboard_5.21_windows_intelx86.exe :)

Eric, you should look into some obfuscation for next time. XOR them or something...
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Message 7455 - Posted: 3 Apr 2008 | 1:09:40 UTC - in response to Message 7448.

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Hmmm, gold blocks sounds like a very old version of starboard, back from when I was working out how to get the glyph images loaded. You should have downloaded the latest and greatest starboard, but maybe something prevented that? What version of the client? What platform? What version of starboard, if you can find that?


I was running:

BOINC version 5.10.13
WinXP SP2
PNY NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT graphics card
Starboard 5.21 was displayed on the generated graphics
starboard_5.21_windows_intelx86.exe is the executable in the Pirates sub-folder

Even ones issued after the change back from Primates to Pirates on April 2nd were like that. Strange but with my computer, anything is possible (I think it's possessed. LOL)



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Message 7457 - Posted: 3 Apr 2008 | 10:25:41 UTC

Ok, I got another WU and did a screen capture of what I was seeing:




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Message 7458 - Posted: 3 Apr 2008 | 11:50:05 UTC - in response to Message 7457.

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Ok, I got another WU and did a screen capture of what I was seeing:

Strange. That really looks like an older test version of starboard.

Here is a test you might try. Copy the starboard .exe to a test folder, and create an empty text file there called "out.txt". Then double click on the .exe file. This runs it "standalone". I do this to test the app before I release it. A graphics window should pop up. See if it looks the same.

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Message 7459 - Posted: 3 Apr 2008 | 12:36:18 UTC - in response to Message 7458.
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Here is a test you might try. Copy the starboard .exe to a test folder, and create an empty text file there called "out.txt". Then double click on the .exe file. This runs it "standalone". I do this to test the app before I release it. A graphics window should pop up. See if it looks the same.


Here's what I got doing your test (ignore the loadd.log as this was done from the temp folder and that was sitting there already):




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Message 7460 - Posted: 3 Apr 2008 | 12:58:44 UTC - in response to Message 7458.

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Copy the starboard .exe to a test folder, and create an empty text file there called "out.txt". Then double click on the .exe file. This runs it "standalone".

Thanks for the hint, me Capt'n!
(Now I can spend more time with cleaning the deck. No need for sitting in front of the screen and waiting, when the srarboards finally get their turn, or fiddling with other Boinc tasks' (un)suspension, a n y m o r e...)
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Message 7463 - Posted: 3 Apr 2008 | 15:41:00 UTC - in response to Message 7459.

Looks more like you have corrupt graphics. Have you tried cleaning out the fan on your videocard? Checked that it doesn't corrupt at OpenGL games? Tried a slower throughput speed? Tried to (re)install (newer) drivers?

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Message 7464 - Posted: 3 Apr 2008 | 16:21:45 UTC

It's a relatively new video card (and yes, it was removed, blown out and cleaned about a week ago). I do have a software conflict of some sort on this computer that effects videos (locks up periodically and sometimes crashes) but otherwise everything looks normal on displays except this particular graphics. Drivers have been removed and reinstalled multiple times over that and it was last done last week.

I did detatch and reattach to Pirates on 4/2 hoping to solve the problem but it came out the same. The last starboard test earlier worked fine with the same video card.

Like I said earlier, I think my computer is possessed. It was a quick slap together due to a HD crash when I needed the computer for work. I bought a new HD that the old mainboard wouldn't support no matter what was tried (particioning, overlays, etc) so I was forced to get a new mainboard which meant new memory, new processor, new video card and little time to get exactly what I wanted. It worked great for several months until a forced Windows update and has been possessed since then.



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Message 7465 - Posted: 3 Apr 2008 | 16:55:46 UTC - in response to Message 7459.

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Here's what I got doing your test...

That is very strange indeed. But I do like a good puzzle.

I wonder how your machine would handle other versions of starboard. And since I've given away the secret of how to run these "standalone", we could try it, if you like. You'll find copies of the older apps in the download folder, in http://pirates.spy-hill.net/download/.
Do all the glmatrix versions of starboard show up the same? Do any of the others have problems? This screensaver uses "texture mapped" images for the glyphs. The last lalanne used a texture map for the background, so if there is a problem with that it could indicate a problem with textures in your GL libraries or card. And perhaps other members of the crew also have ideas on how to solve this puzzle.
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Message 7467 - Posted: 3 Apr 2008 | 17:57:42 UTC

Well with the help of testing the exe's from various past runs, I've come to the conclusion it is the video card that is bad. I'll be going to get a new one later today and hopefully it will solve the problems (if not, I still like to have spares of everything).

All of past starboards I tried that were in the Matrix style came out like the latest one, just colored blocks (and they worked fine back then with the letters and numbers). Starboard 5.18 and 5.19 looked pretty much ok but this time I had some brown blocks stuck solid in the kalidascope effect of those exe's which weren't there when the exe's were initially released. The Lalanne ones which worked fine before locked my computer up pretty good and forced me to reboot. Only the yello and cubes seemed to work ok.

I guess I have one more thing to my "never buy again" list that already has Maxtor hard drives on it (have had three of those in my life and all crashed hard within a year). Now I can add PNY video cards if a new card solves the problem. I had one from PNY previously for my old mainboard and it died within weeks of getting it but had to get a replacement from another manufacturer since it took a week to get PNY to replace the bad one so I never reinstalled the replacement PNY card.

A bad video card might also explain why my PC hibernates at times when I'm in the middle of doing something. I thought it was a software conflict since it happened after a Windows update and then cleared up once for a couple of weeks between additional Windows updates. Perhaps just a coincidence. I still think the computer is possessed by evil spirits...



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Message 7468 - Posted: 3 Apr 2008 | 20:08:33 UTC - in response to Message 7467.

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I still think the computer is possessed by evil spirits...

No, I think it's a broken video card as well, a blown capacitor or something like that as the first picture you show in this thread shows definite corruption of graphics. Those 'characters' in the middle, at the bottom... they give it away.

But you can always try dancing around it, being stark naked while holding a dead chicken, feathers and all. Deep freeze chicken doesn't work. ;-)
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Message 7469 - Posted: 3 Apr 2008 | 23:18:01 UTC

Well a new video card seems to have solved problems so far. The lalane exe's only come up white with a black border for me but everything else I'm seeing what I am supposed to be seeing now.

I was thinking of swinging our cat around and chanting to get rid of the demonic spirits but thought better of it since my daughter would get mad and hit me for doing that to the cat...
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Message 7471 - Posted: 4 Apr 2008 | 14:36:54 UTC - in response to Message 7469.

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Well a new video card seems to have solved problems so far.

Congratulations. Save that old video card for next April 1st...

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