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Message 5235 - Posted: 29 Mar 2007 | 16:19:19 UTC

Site stats say that the last time this host contacted server was 18 Feb 2007 13:17:44 UTC, but server contact has been successful many times since and always with the same strange reply:

3/29/07 11:43:29 AM|Pirates@Home|Message from server: All Your BOINC are belong to us!
3/29/07 11:43:29 AM|Pirates@Home|Deferring communication for 1 days 0 hr 0 min 0 sec

So now I gotta ask. What's up with that?
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Message 5236 - Posted: 29 Mar 2007 | 16:54:49 UTC
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Come on, you never heard of the All your base are belong to us frenzy?

If you never did, go see the videos. :-)
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Message 5237 - Posted: 29 Mar 2007 | 18:06:17 UTC - in response to Message 5236.

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Come on, you never heard of the All your base are belong to us frenzy?

Yes. I are on the way to destruction.
But BOINC has no Zig to move!

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Message 5254 - Posted: 2 Apr 2007 | 16:49:43 UTC

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Message 5255 - Posted: 2 Apr 2007 | 17:22:22 UTC - in response to Message 5235.
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Site stats say that the last time this host contacted server was 18 Feb 2007 13:17:44 UTC, but server contact has been successful many times since and always with the same strange reply:

3/29/07 11:43:29 AM|Pirates@Home|Message from server: All Your BOINC are belong to us!
3/29/07 11:43:29 AM|Pirates@Home|Deferring communication for 1 days 0 hr 0 min 0 sec

So now I gotta ask. What's up with that?


What version of the Client is this?
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Message 5256 - Posted: 2 Apr 2007 | 19:46:27 UTC - in response to Message 5255.

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What version of the Client is this?

That host currently runs 5.8.16, but has run other versions with the same reply.

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Message 5257 - Posted: 3 Apr 2007 | 2:50:56 UTC

Clean install of 5.8.16 on the
same host and all is good.

If I install back to original directory I still get from server "All Your BOINC are belong to us!"

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Message 5258 - Posted: 3 Apr 2007 | 11:25:52 UTC - in response to Message 5257.

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Clean install of 5.8.16 on the
same host and all is good.

If I install back to original directory I still get from server "All Your BOINC are belong to us!"


Here is what is happening. When I made some small modifications to the scheduler I gave it a different name, "pirate_scheduler". This is indicated on the project home page both with a <scheduler>... </scheduler> block (the old way) and a <link> tag (the new way). You may recall that the BOS display wasn't getting the Pirates@Home status correct until Bruno changed it to point to the new scheduler, because his software does not yet determine the scheduler from these tags.

But the Client is supposed to know how to find the scheduler this way. Instead, yours seems to be looking just for the default name, cgi-bin/scheduler. That gets it to a perl script which sends back a short xml scheduler reply with the message you have noted. That message also has the project master page in it, which contains the correct scheduler link, so I don't understand how your client gets confused.

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Message 5264 - Posted: 3 Apr 2007 | 19:27:06 UTC
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It seems PovAddict has found that there is a bug in how the client parses the tag on the main page. This might explain this effect, and it might mean that it will be fixed in a newer client when it comes out.

Anybody else see this?

Perhaps we should try a few variations to see how it's triggered?

Right now the tag comes first, then the block. I wonder if all your BOINC are still belong to us if:
1) I remove the <scheduler> block, leaving just <link>; or
2) I remove the <link>, leaving just the <scheduler>; or
3) I reverse the order, with both present
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Message 5265 - Posted: 3 Apr 2007 | 19:44:11 UTC - in response to Message 5264.

Predictions?

Let's getiton. :-)

Either BOINC will crash and burn, BSOD or flush out all the results of the other projects.
Or...
Nothing will happen.
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Message 5266 - Posted: 3 Apr 2007 | 23:42:40 UTC - in response to Message 5264.

Wormholio wrote:
Perhaps we should try a few variations to see how it's triggered?

I bet I'll let ya know when All my BOINC belong to me!

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Message 5267 - Posted: 3 Apr 2007 | 23:45:42 UTC - in response to Message 5265.

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Predictions?

Let's getiton. :-)

Either BOINC will crash and burn, BSOD or flush out all the results of the other projects.
Or...
Nothing will happen.



Or the world as we know it will end because we'll all be going through massive BOINC withdrawals when the mighty captain breaks things.

Or nothing will happen.

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Message 5279 - Posted: 4 Apr 2007 | 15:06:42 UTC - in response to Message 5264.

Wormholio wrote:
Predictions?


The Purple Sage opened his mouth and moved his tongue and so spoke to them and he said:
The Earth quakes and the Heavens rattle; the beasts of nature flock together and the nations of men flock apart; volcanoes usher up heat while elsewhere water becomes ice and melts; and then on other days it just rains.
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Message 5292 - Posted: 6 Apr 2007 | 19:08:23 UTC

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Paying closer attention to the captured host I noticed the preferences I set on the web were not obeyed.
Seems troubles were in client_state.xml

[size=-1]<project>
<master_url>http://pirates.spy-hill.net/</master_url>
<project_name>Pirates@Home</project_name>
<symstore></symstore>
<user_name>Contact</user_name>
<team_name>BOINC Synergy</team_name>
<host_venue></host_venue>[/size]

I changed <host_venue></host_venue> to <host_venue>work</host_venue> and saved.
After restarting BOINC and hitting Pirates server, back to <host_venue></host_venue> and "All Your BOINC are belong to us!" reply.
Now I check the web and see that host is set to home. So change to work and save. Exit BOINC, again set <host_venue></host_venue> to <host_venue>work</host_venue> and save.
Restart BOINC and still no joy getting <host_venue> defined until I update another project (that I already updated just prior to noticing client_state problem).

I can't reproduce this empty <host_venue> now. Strange.
Last restart looked like this:

[size=-1]4/6/07 12:55:52 PM||General prefs: from Pirates@Home (last modified 2007-04-06 11:52:56)
4/6/07 12:55:52 PM||Host location: work
4/6/07 12:55:52 PM||General prefs: using separate prefs for work
4/6/07 12:55:52 PM|QMC@HOME|Restarting task two_bench16_jsch2005s22exp.429_0 using Amolqc-preRC1exp version 501
4/6/07 12:56:14 PM|Pirates@Home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
4/6/07 12:56:14 PM|Pirates@Home|Requesting 17592 seconds of new work
4/6/07 12:56:19 PM|Pirates@Home|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 509]
4/6/07 12:56:19 PM|Pirates@Home|Message from server: All Your BOINC are belong to us!
4/6/07 12:56:19 PM|Pirates@Home|New host venue:
4/6/07 12:56:20 PM||General prefs: from Pirates@Home (last modified 2007-04-06 11:52:56)
4/6/07 12:56:20 PM||Host location: none
4/6/07 12:56:20 PM||General prefs: using your defaults
4/6/07 12:56:20 PM|Pirates@Home|Deferring communication for 1 days 0 hr 0 min 0 sec
4/6/07 12:56:20 PM|Pirates@Home|Reason: requested by project
4/6/07 12:58:09 PM|Pirates@Home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
4/6/07 12:58:09 PM|Pirates@Home|Requesting 17592 seconds of new work
4/6/07 12:58:14 PM|Pirates@Home|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 509]
4/6/07 12:58:14 PM|Pirates@Home|Message from server: All Your BOINC are belong to us!
4/6/07 12:58:14 PM|Pirates@Home|Deferring communication for 1 days 0 hr 0 min 0 sec
4/6/07 12:58:14 PM|Pirates@Home|Reason: requested by project
4/6/07 12:58:46 PM|Pirates@Home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
4/6/07 12:58:46 PM|Pirates@Home|Requesting 17592 seconds of new work
4/6/07 12:58:51 PM|Pirates@Home|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 509]
4/6/07 12:58:51 PM|Pirates@Home|Message from server: All Your BOINC are belong to us!
4/6/07 12:58:51 PM|Pirates@Home|Deferring communication for 1 days 0 hr 0 min 0 sec
4/6/07 12:58:51 PM|Pirates@Home|Reason: requested by project
4/6/07 12:58:51 PM|Pirates@Home|Deferring communication for 1 min 0 sec
4/6/07 12:58:51 PM|Pirates@Home|Reason: no work from project
4/6/07 12:59:33 PM|BOINC alpha test|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
4/6/07 12:59:33 PM|BOINC alpha test|(not requesting new work or reporting completed tasks)
4/6/07 12:59:38 PM|BOINC alpha test|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 509]
4/6/07 12:59:38 PM|BOINC alpha test|Deferring communication for 7 sec
4/6/07 12:59:38 PM|BOINC alpha test|Reason: requested by project
4/6/07 12:59:53 PM|Pirates@Home|Fetching scheduler list
4/6/07 12:59:58 PM|Pirates@Home|Master file download succeeded
4/6/07 1:00:04 PM|Pirates@Home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work
4/6/07 1:00:04 PM|Pirates@Home|Requesting 17593 seconds of new work
4/6/07 1:00:09 PM|Pirates@Home|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 509]
4/6/07 1:00:09 PM|Pirates@Home|New host venue: work
4/6/07 1:00:09 PM||General prefs: from Pirates@Home (last modified 2007-04-06 11:52:56)
4/6/07 1:00:09 PM||Host location: work
4/6/07 1:00:09 PM||General prefs: using separate prefs for work
4/6/07 1:00:09 PM|Pirates@Home|Deferring communication for 1 min 0 sec
4/6/07 1:00:09 PM|Pirates@Home|Reason: requested by project
4/6/07 1:00:09 PM||Suspending computation - user is active[/size]
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Message 5297 - Posted: 7 Apr 2007 | 6:57:59 UTC
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I'm just hoping that BOINC Studio comes out with a new version within 74 days, 10 hours.
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Message 5490 - Posted: 20 Apr 2007 | 22:18:17 UTC
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Umm ... nebbermind.

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Message 5491 - Posted: 21 Apr 2007 | 0:28:23 UTC

I jus’ noticed that th’ deadine fer upgradin’ BOINC appears t’ave been extended: th’ messages I’d been receivin’ pointed t’ mid-June, but now they be sayin’ I ’ave 346 days. A change o’ plans, or jus’ a test?

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Message 5493 - Posted: 21 Apr 2007 | 2:34:32 UTC - in response to Message 5491.

Odysseus wrote:
I jus’ noticed that th’ deadine fer upgradin’ BOINC appears t’ave been extended: th’ messages I’d been receivin’ pointed t’ mid-June, but now they be sayin’ I ’ave 346 days. A change o’ plans, or jus’ a test?

If it hadn't your project pirate would be out by himself in the longboat. That date (346 days) has significance, and as such the required version is subject to change. ;)

The current req might be 5.4 but I'm not completely sure on that.
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