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Message 5095 - Posted: 12 Mar 2007 | 15:51:58 UTC

testing signature. Wormholio is adding new code to the signature box. Add as long a graphical signature if you want to test along. :)

Checking if my sig now shows...
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Message 5096 - Posted: 12 Mar 2007 | 16:24:08 UTC
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If you have a short sig then you get no scroll bars, right?

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Message 5097 - Posted: 12 Mar 2007 | 16:26:33 UTC
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Well, let's see if this sig is short enough.

No scrolly bars. :)
And they are there with a large sig picture.
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Message 5098 - Posted: 12 Mar 2007 | 16:30:51 UTC
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scrolling the whole thread with mouse wheel, scrolling to top or bottom without problems. only when I point to empty space next to a signature first will it first only scroll the signature.
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Message 5099 - Posted: 12 Mar 2007 | 20:16:06 UTC

On Linux with Firefox 1.0.8 it has the scroll bar next to each signature, regardless of how large it is.

But Firefox 1.5.0.20 on Linux seems to just truncate. Strange.

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Message 5100 - Posted: 13 Mar 2007 | 0:21:50 UTC

The whole thread's page seem to be displayed cleanly and correctly on IE7. With Netscape/7.2 Ageless Steel's signature fields are some 7 text lines high and contain scrollbar at the right side. Only the topmost pixel line from large signature can be seen without scrolling.
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Message 5106 - Posted: 13 Mar 2007 | 4:51:39 UTC
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I see a normal sig with no scroll bars, IE7.

I made mine nice and tall to see what happens.

edit: Even with both stats blocks in the long format I don't see scroll bars for my sig.
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Message 5108 - Posted: 13 Mar 2007 | 10:51:06 UTC - in response to Message 5106.

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I see a normal sig with no scroll bars, IE7.

I made mine nice and tall to see what happens.

edit: Even with both stats blocks in the long format I don't see scroll bars for my sig.

With IE7, everything's OK. With NS7 (a.k.a. old Mozilla), the scrolled signature field is the same high as Jord's ones. Your sig. is by approx. 1/3 taller and it is also necessary to scroll by nearly 4 "pages", Jord's sig. is 3 "pages" tall.

After zooming the text in, until 120% nothing changed, from 150% already Rusty (a small one), Wormy and me (both larger, but a bit smaller than Jord and John) have their sigs with scrollbar, but everything's visible without need to scroll.

With 200% Wormy's sig already need to be scrolled a bit and his and my (scrolled) sig area is equally long as Jord's and John's. With some 400% Rusty's scroll area is already the same long and need to be scrolled too.

Is there any graphical limit (in vertical pixel count) for (unscrolled) sig area, which is taken into account by the Mozilla family?
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Message 5109 - Posted: 13 Mar 2007 | 11:33:34 UTC
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Firefox 2.0.0.2 has scroll bars for the sigs that have more than a single line.
Opera 9.02 also has scroll bars, but only for some of the longer sigs.
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Message 5111 - Posted: 13 Mar 2007 | 12:05:39 UTC - in response to Message 5109.

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Firefox 2.0.0.2 has scroll bars for the sigs that have more than a single line.

Maybe so on Windows, but not on Mac. Only the long ones are getting scroll bars.

What I have done is change one parameter in the style sheet. I changed the "overflow" parameter for the 'sigblock' class from "hidden" to "auto". The hidden setting simply truncated everything that would stick out below the allocated height. (And most of the crew then trimmed their sigs accordingly).

According to Eric Meyer's book on CSS, for the "auto" setting it is up to the browser to decide when it should or should not show scroll bars. And I suspect that newer browsers are better at doing the 'right' thing, though as we can see there is a lot of variation.

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Message 5112 - Posted: 13 Mar 2007 | 12:12:15 UTC

Oh, check that out. With IE 6 and not logged in (not necessary when checking for help), the signatures show in full. No scroll bars.
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Message 5113 - Posted: 13 Mar 2007 | 12:51:55 UTC
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Firefox 2.0.0.2 on Windows XP Pro.

No scrolls bars at all.

John's is cut off after Predictor and I can only see the text part of Jord's.

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Message 5114 - Posted: 13 Mar 2007 | 12:52:51 UTC

[off topic]

And why all that blank space at the end of my previous post???
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Message 5115 - Posted: 13 Mar 2007 | 13:10:31 UTC
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Opera 9.02 and 9.10 both show scroll bars.

And so does Netscape 8.1.2.

And so does Firefox 1.5.0.10 (different computer than the other tests, but still XP Pro)

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Message 5116 - Posted: 13 Mar 2007 | 15:24:46 UTC - in response to Message 5114.
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And why all that blank space at the end of my previous post???

Because all that information about you (under your avatar) was possibly more (vertical place) worth (= took more place into account) than all what you told us in that post :-)
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Message 5117 - Posted: 13 Mar 2007 | 15:29:05 UTC

[OT] as it is not predictable, what or how many names will Ageless / Stainless / Cutlass / ... ;-) try in the near future, I'll call him Jord in the time being.[/OT]
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Message 5118 - Posted: 13 Mar 2007 | 15:34:50 UTC - in response to Message 5117.

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[OT] as it is not predictable, what or how many names will Ageless / Stainless / Cutlass / ... ;-) try in the near future, I'll call him Jord in the time being.[/OT]

I got a long list. :-)

But here I'll stay as Stainless Cutlass for now. It's more appropriate to the surroundings. :)
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Message 5119 - Posted: 13 Mar 2007 | 15:44:59 UTC

This
is
somehow
we
can
say
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very
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tall
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thin
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meaning
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Message 5120 - Posted: 13 Mar 2007 | 15:45:43 UTC

Very short message.

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Message 5121 - Posted: 13 Mar 2007 | 16:43:49 UTC

Hehehehe...

Nice long message Peter :)

You might be right about the stuff under the avatar.


Hmmmm.... wonders what it would look like if I turn off avatars...

::goes to check::

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Message 5122 - Posted: 13 Mar 2007 | 16:49:02 UTC
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Peter, you're right about the height of the message box being related to the amount of stuff under the avatar.


However an even more interesting thing happened with that little experiment. Where I didn't have the scroll bars before on FF 2.0.0.2, I now have them.

::goes to turn avatars back on::

[edit]Well the scroll bars are still there after turning avatars back on. It makes my head hurt to wonder why it wasn't working before, so I'll leave that headache to our fearless leader[/edit]

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Message 5139 - Posted: 15 Mar 2007 | 3:42:29 UTC
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Oh... so NOW I see this thread...

screenshot

Messed up in FF 2.0.0.2, Windows XP. Displays properly in IE6.

It's a nice roadblock for those of us who use a scroll wheel.
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Message 5150 - Posted: 15 Mar 2007 | 21:24:49 UTC
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Just curious to see how mine looks....

[edit]oops, it's been turned off.....[/edit]

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Message 5155 - Posted: 16 Mar 2007 | 7:04:58 UTC

Not sure if its still needed, But here is my grossly too large sig. I also see no scrolling using I.E.6 with Avant.
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Message 5157 - Posted: 16 Mar 2007 | 8:16:39 UTC
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Sig back to normal. I saw scroll bars with firefox but not with IE7.

edit: Well maybe not normal, BOINCstats has colors and junk to play with now.
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Message 5161 - Posted: 16 Mar 2007 | 12:20:11 UTC
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The setting we are testing is the 'overflow' in CSS for the signature block. It can be set to 'hidden', which always truncates, or 'auto', which lets the browser decide how to best handle the overflow (eg. create a scrollbar).

We had been using 'hidden' for a long while, after a discussion about excessive sig length on BOINC projects. The crew responded with short sigs, sometimes wider, and some animated blocks that show each project in turn. All improvments, in my view at least.

Last week I turned on 'auto' to try it out, though I turned it off again yesterday for a bit. I'm now turning it back on. I've also set it to 'auto' for the body of the post and set the max width to 100%. That could/should result in a horizontal scroll bar for text that would stick out to the right.

I'd like to collect data on how different browsers deal with these settings. The reports can come in here, but the final results could be tabulated on a wiki page.

We already have some data above, but for the 'auto' setting there is no 'right' or 'wrong' way to display the text, even though you may find one or the other more pleasing or annoying. What we need is a description of exactly how the browser renders the block. Is it simply truncated as it was with the 'hidden' setting? Is there always a scroll bar, or does it only appear if the block of text is too tall or wide? Anything else different which should be noted?

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Message 5162 - Posted: 16 Mar 2007 | 12:42:32 UTC

Well, For me I don't see any change for anyone's sigs, They are either all as I would see elsewhere (Including myself's), Or none at all really. I haven't seen any scroll bar at all. I also tried with just IE 6 but it was the same result.
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Message 5163 - Posted: 16 Mar 2007 | 12:42:40 UTC

Testing horizontal scroller. Seems to work. ;-)
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