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Message 4862 - Posted: 2 Feb 2007 | 5:35:02 UTC

There is no Pirate of the Day today. Only members of the crew who have created a Profile (with a picture), have recent credit, and who have a verified e-mail address, are eligible to be chosen as Pirate of the Day. Since we have run out of these there won't be a Pirate of the Day until we have some new, verified profiles.

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Message 4867 - Posted: 2 Feb 2007 | 13:27:31 UTC - in response to Message 4862.

There is no Pirate of the Day today...

Moin,
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Go to "Your Account", and if your e-mail address has not been verified then there will be a link for doing so. When you click the link it sends a message to that address, with a unique link in the message which you then follow back. That proves that you can receive e-mail at that address.

You've got 2 dubloons already, so those with fewer will be chosen before you, under the present policy.

It seems the way the POTD is being chosen there is a window every night after midnight (EST) where we have no POTD for maybe an hour or so. I'll have to look into that.
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Message 4871 - Posted: 2 Feb 2007 | 16:56:51 UTC - in response to Message 4867.

You've got 2 dubloons already, so those with fewer will be chosen before you, under the present policy.


Hmmm...not sure that it is really working that way at the moment. My profile has been up for several days now and I don't have the verify link by my e-mail address, but the current user-of-the-day has 2 dubloons to my none?


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Message 4873 - Posted: 2 Feb 2007 | 17:39:36 UTC - in response to Message 4867.

how do I verify my eMail?
Go to "Your Account", and if your e-mail address has not been verified then there will be a link for doing so.
there is no link, so my eMail is veryfied
You've got 2 dubloons already, so those with fewer will be chosen before you, under the present policy.

@Scott Brown - unfortunately I am not the POTD - my dubloons are older - and that´s just because I havn´t figured out yet, how to grab them and run. >:->>>

@Wormholio & Scott Brown
But I thougt, becoming POTD is a question of voting - at least, thats what I thougt the other projects are doing - the user with the most votes gets the "User of the day" and his votes go back to zero, so next day someone else has the most votes. Thats different on pirates, it seems - maybe must be doing some good duty for the Captain's - or how does it work?

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Message 4874 - Posted: 2 Feb 2007 | 17:48:11 UTC - in response to Message 4873.


@Scott Brown - unfortunately I am not the POTD - my dubloons are older - and that´s just because I havn´t figured out yet, how to grab them and run. >:->>>

@Wormholio & Scott Brown
But I thougt, becoming POTD is a question of voting - at least, thats what I thougt the other projects are doing - the user with the most votes gets the "User of the day" and his votes go back to zero, so next day someone else has the most votes. Thats different on pirates, it seems - maybe must be doing some good duty for the Captain's - or how does it work?

greetings, Wilhelm



Actually, the current POTD that shows up on the maain page has 2 dubloons, same as you (sorry if I was a bit confusing with the first post).

As for the selection of UOTD on BOINC projects, the default (at least as I understand it) is a random algorithm that sorts through users with profiles and picks one. For POTD, you add in the additional steps of the verified e-mail requirement and number of current dubloons.

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Message 4875 - Posted: 2 Feb 2007 | 17:52:42 UTC - in response to Message 4874.

As for the selection of UOTD on BOINC projects, the default (at least as I understand it) is a random algorithm that sorts through users with profiles and picks one. For POTD, you add in the additional steps of the verified e-mail requirement and number of current dubloons.
Are you shure about that? So what is all the voting in "Participant Profiles" about then?

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Message 4876 - Posted: 2 Feb 2007 | 19:10:05 UTC - in response to Message 4875.

So what is all the voting in "Participant Profiles" about then?

That's just to show you like or dislike a person's profile. If there's porn on it, and enough people press dislike, it'll give attention to the admins that something is wrong with that profile.

The choosing of the POTD/UOTD is done at random.
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Message 4877 - Posted: 2 Feb 2007 | 19:35:10 UTC
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Pirates@Home is a place where we can try out new ideas for BOINC. Some of them get incorporated into the main code, some are just an experiment. One of the ideas that has made it into the main code is a customizable function which lets each project implement it's own policy on how the UOTD is chosen. If the function does not exist then a default is used. The default is:


// This is the default policy for choosing the UOTD on any BOINC project.
// To override this with your own policy, create a similar function in
// your own project.inc called uotd_candidates_query()
function default_uotd_candidates_query(){
if (profile_screening()) {
$query = "SELECT * FROM profile,user WHERE profile.userid=user.id ";
$query .= " AND verification=1 ";
$query .= " AND expavg_credit>1 ";
$query .= " AND uotd_time IS NULL ";
$query .= "ORDER BY RAND()";
} else {
$query = "SELECT * FROM profile,user WHERE profile.userid=user.id ";
$query .= " AND verification=1 ";
$query .= " AND uotd_time IS NULL ";
$query .= "ORDER BY RAND()";
}
return $query;
}


But on Pirates@Home the customized policy function is:

/**
* How to get candidates for User of the Day (set your policy here)
* (On Pirates@Home we re-use seti_nresults to count the number
* of times a person has been Pirate of the Day and choose those
* who've had the honor fewer times first).
*/

function uotd_candidates_query(){
$q = "SELECT * FROM profile,user WHERE profile.userid=user.id ";
$q .= "AND total_credit>0.01 "; // Pirates must have participated
$q .= "AND expavg_credit>0.001 "; // and done so recently,
$q .= "AND verification>0 "; // not have a disapproved profile
$q .= "AND email_validated=1 "; // and a verified e-mail address
$q .= "AND seti_nresults < 2 "; // UOTD less than twice (temporary?)
// never been UOTD before, or at least not in last 30 days
$q .= "AND (uotd_time IS NULL OR uotd_time < UNIX_TIMESTAMP()-30*86400 ) ";
$q .= "ORDER BY seti_nresults, reject-recommend, RAND()"; // least times UOTD first
return $q;
}


Please excuse the code, but I thought I'd show it for those who are into such things, and perhaps they can help decode some of this.

The main point is that the default policy is indeed to use a purely random ordering, but on Pirates we do play favorites. First, we give the honor to those who've never been chosen, or have been chosen less often than others (ie number of dubloons you've received). Amongst those who are equal in that regard, we look at reject-recommend, the number of votes to reject minus the number of votes to recommend. Since lower numbers come first, this puts those with more positive votes first, and those with more negative votes last. Your vote does count on this ship. And finally, we randomize.

When a user is chosen as Pirate of the Day the ratings of their profile are reset to zero.

So what is to keep everybody from voting for themselves multiple times? This is where we have a feature which is still experimental. First of all, you cannot rate your own profile (or your own forum posts). Next, you only have 5 ratings points to give, to rate either a profile or a post. Once spent, they are gone, and you can no longer rate anything. But we'll put one point back for every 8-hour watch. This, one hopes, prevents abuse of the system, but makes it possible to rate profiles and postings in the natural course of the ship's business, so that the good stuff rises to the top.

This has been in place for a while now, but not thoroughly tested. I'm sure it will get some testing now that the cat is out of the bag.

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Message 4887 - Posted: 3 Feb 2007 | 14:09:33 UTC - in response to Message 4877.

on Pirates@Home the customized policy function is:

$q .= "AND seti_nresults < 2 "; // UOTD less than twice (temporary?)
// never been UOTD before, or at least not in last 30 days

Please excuse the code, but I thought I'd show it for those who are into such things, and perhaps they can help decode some of this.

No excuse for that - even non-programmens like me might try to understand some of this.....
like the part shown - if that would work like it should, there could not be "no pirate of the day" as Scott Brown would have been choosen, because he has no dubloons yet - and I would have been choosen, because my last dubloons is monthe ago. That means, if all other points fit, but I have creditds, I have recent credits - my eMail is verified. And so probably many other users have. Maybe we are all with negative votes? I do not believe that, but have no idea, where to check it...
The main point is that the default policy is indeed to use a purely random ordering, but on Pirates we do play favorites.
That´s good - I thought every project is doing that! And that there is a mistake in the basic-code, as for many new projects have a bug: Whenever you make your profile first time, you are instantly user of the day - so the UotD sometimes changes tens of times a day...
First, we give the honor to those who've never been chosen, or have been chosen less often than others (ie number of dubloons you've received). Amongst those who are equal in that regard, we look at reject-recommend, the number of votes to reject minus the number of votes to recommend. Since lower numbers come first, this puts those with more positive votes first, and those with more negative votes last. Your vote does count on this ship. And finally, we randomize. When a user is chosen as Pirate of the Day the ratings of their profile are reset to zero.
I think, this is perfect - if it works :-)
But we'll put one point back for every 8-hour watch.
What is the meaning of this? I´ll get a point every 8 houres? I must have hundreds by now??

And one last question again - where do I find the dubloons to grab and run?
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Message 4888 - Posted: 3 Feb 2007 | 17:09:44 UTC - in response to Message 4887.
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And so probably many other users have. Maybe we are all with negative votes?

No, there are about 25 members of the crew who are now eligible for POTD. But there can be only one per day, so each must wait to be chosen.

It may not be clear from the code, but the default policy (which I'm guessing most new projects use) is to only select from those who have never had the honor. So when someone new joins they may be the only person who qualifies.

It may also not be clear from the code, but since you have to have an approved profile (shown as 'verification' - yes it's confusing), and since your profile is only presented for approval when a picture is added (or changed), only those with a picture in their profile are eligible. This could be changed, but that's how it's working right now.

But we'll put one point back for every 8-hour watch.
What is the meaning of this? I´ll get a point every 8 hours? I must have hundreds by now??


You can have 5 at most. The number you have available is shown next to the rating controls under each posting.

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Message 4889 - Posted: 3 Feb 2007 | 19:08:40 UTC - in response to Message 4888.

No, there are about 25 members of the crew who are now eligible for POTD. But there can be only one per day, so each must wait to be chosen.

only 25 out of more than 5000 participants - are you sure?
You can have 5 at most. The number you have available is shown next to the rating controls under each posting.
Wow, thats right here - and I have been searching on the whole site... my fault. Is it as easy to see, if I´m part of the 25?

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Message 4892 - Posted: 3 Feb 2007 | 23:51:30 UTC - in response to Message 4888.

...since your profile is only presented for approval when a picture is added (or changed), only those with a picture in their profile are eligible.


Ahhh...I had forgot about that, which explains why I've not yet got me gold!

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Message 4897 - Posted: 4 Feb 2007 | 16:11:04 UTC - in response to Message 4892.

Ahhh...I had forgot about that, which explains why I've not yet got me gold!

But today... you've got it! The dubloon is yours.
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Message 7479 - Posted: 8 Apr 2008 | 23:23:34 UTC

I cannot even create a profile. Well, I could, but once I submit
(even with both text fields filled in AND a picture selected),
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Message 7482 - Posted: 9 Apr 2008 | 11:26:18 UTC - in response to Message 7479.

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I cannot even create a profile. Well, I could, but once I submit
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all I get is a blank page.

I've tried editing my (existing) profile, and it works fine, so I cannot reproduce the problem. On the other hand, we've had strange cases before where that page failed only under certain circumstances. Anybody else also having problems with profile creation or editing?

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Message 7483 - Posted: 9 Apr 2008 | 16:29:52 UTC - in response to Message 7482.


I can edit text, but if I try to edit image in either profile or message board prefs I get a HTTP 500 error page.

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Message 7484 - Posted: 9 Apr 2008 | 19:54:09 UTC - in response to Message 7483.

Contact wrote:

I can edit text, but if I try to edit image in either profile or message board prefs I get a HTTP 500 error page.

Ahah. As Yogi Berra once said, it's deja vu all over again.

We've had this problem before. PHP uses a graphics library called GD to process the profile images. The symptoms were that you could edit the text part of your profile, but not upload an image.

Why is this back? I updated the web server here a while ago to a version I built from source, and apparently didn't get GD properly included.

I was wondering why I suddenly didn't have any profiles to review in the past month or two. It's because nobody could upload images, and the profile review is only reset based on changing your image, not the text. (That's something I would like to see changed in BOINC.)

Thanks to Contact and mirabilos for the reports. I'll let you know when I think I've got it fixed. Meanwhile, mirabilos, you can edit at least the text of a profile, just not upload a picture.

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Message 7485 - Posted: 10 Apr 2008 | 0:28:04 UTC

Ah okay, thanks, will try that then.
Great, it works. Thanks!

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Message 7513 - Posted: 14 Apr 2008 | 0:12:01 UTC - in response to Message 7484.

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We've had this problem before. PHP uses a graphics library called GD to process the profile images. The symptoms were that you could edit the text part of your profile, but not upload an image.

Why is this back? I updated the web server here a while ago to a version I built from source, and apparently didn't get GD properly included.


This should now be fixed, and you can upload profile images.
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Message 7514 - Posted: 14 Apr 2008 | 1:15:36 UTC - in response to Message 7513.

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Wormholio wrote:
We've had this problem before. PHP uses a graphics library called GD to process the profile images. The symptoms were that you could edit the text part of your profile, but not upload an image.

Why is this back? I updated the web server here a while ago to a version I built from source, and apparently didn't get GD properly included.


This should now be fixed, and you can upload profile images.

Yep, fixed until the next update :)

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Message 7548 - Posted: 19 Apr 2008 | 15:43:26 UTC

Seems to work, I get a message that it’ll be approved now.

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Message 7550 - Posted: 20 Apr 2008 | 5:15:04 UTC

Heh yeah, I got it, just when I wanted to go to sleep.
Must be good karma.

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Message 7576 - Posted: 5 May 2008 | 21:08:53 UTC

My profile image doesn’t show up in postings, although it shows when
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Other than that, it looks okay.
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Message 7577 - Posted: 6 May 2008 | 2:20:08 UTC - in response to Message 7576.

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My profile image doesn’t show up in postings, although it shows when
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There are actually two separate images. The "avatar" which shows up to the left of postings is set under forum preferences, not in your profile.


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Message 7618 - Posted: 30 Jun 2008 | 11:26:37 UTC

Looks like things are starting up again... I am PotD ;-)
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Message 7619 - Posted: 30 Jun 2008 | 16:17:36 UTC - in response to Message 7618.

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Looks like things are starting up again... I am PotD ;-)


Looks like we are getting to the bottom of the barrel.

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Message 7706 - Posted: 31 Jul 2008 | 14:24:51 UTC

Good to know, thanks. Should have one now.

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