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Message 4782 - Posted: 26 Jan 2007 | 8:52:24 UTC

Back to testing. My RAC has fallen under 1.0, I can edit the glossary as evidenced by the spelling mistake I made on the first page of the Glossary.

Now what's the volunteer tester tag for? Auto-added when someone is a moderator? And how in Hook's name did I become a moderator? ;-)
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Message 4783 - Posted: 26 Jan 2007 | 13:08:27 UTC

I've been ashore for a few days, to meet with the captains of other ships, and in my absence I made some promotions. As with just about everything here, this is just a test. The authentication plug-in I wrote for the wiki is supposed to promote BOINC moderators to chiefs, and put anybody who's banned from the forums in the brig.

I think the moderator interface here is slightly different from that on other projects, so perhaps we can get a screen shot?

To test whether the banning works I will ban Misfit again, once I find where I put the tool to do it, and we'll see if he ends up in the brig on the wiki. It's only a test. He's performing a valuable duty, as he has many times before. He hasn't done anything wrong (this time :-), and I'll let him out once I return from my travels and/or the test is completed.

Keep in mind that all promotions on a pirate ship are provisional. As the Dread Pirate Roberts so eloquently put it, "I'll likely kill you in the morning". Meanwhile, let's see if it works as it should.

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Message 4784 - Posted: 26 Jan 2007 | 13:16:55 UTC
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Options on the BOINC forums:

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So in essence there's not much difference, but for that here it's buttons (which change as well), they are on a line and not links underneath each other.

Oh, I did edit the glossary back to normal. :-)
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Message 4785 - Posted: 26 Jan 2007 | 16:01:59 UTC - in response to Message 4783.
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To test whether the banning works I will ban Misfit again, once I find where I put the tool to do it, and we'll see if he ends up in the brig on the wiki. It's only a test. He's performing a valuable duty, as he has many times before. He hasn't done anything wrong (this time :-), and I'll let him out once I return from my travels and/or the test is completed.

Sure, it must be a honour for Misfit to be blamed as the first one! ;-)

[edit]I've tried to move this post 4785 from thread 718 to thread 711. It got moved, but the other browser's page still did not load with modified original thread.[/edit]

[edit]The backward move went fine.[/edit]

[edit]Successfully deleted, and undeleted.[/edit]

Post tools seem to work fine.
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Message 4786 - Posted: 26 Jan 2007 | 16:21:11 UTC

Why does everybody blame Misfit? o_O

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Message 4787 - Posted: 26 Jan 2007 | 23:31:46 UTC - in response to Message 4786.
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Why does everybody blame Misfit? o_O

Good question - IIRC Misfit always asked us to blame him, didn't he? ;-)
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Message 4789 - Posted: 26 Jan 2007 | 23:41:21 UTC - in response to Message 4788.

Why does everybody blame Misfit? o_O

Good question - IIRC Misfit always asked us to blame him, didn't he? ;-)

Hereby I'm offending myself!!

I've tried to report the message 4788 as offensive (red crossed box), but it didn't work (am I the first one to try this?):
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Message 4791 - Posted: 27 Jan 2007 | 0:04:06 UTC - in response to Message 4787.

Why does everybody blame Misfit? o_O

Good question - IIRC Misfit always asked us to blame him, didn't he? ;-)

I did fully forgot the prophecy, we talk about Misfit and he's in jail...

BTW, I like it how clearly is it shown that someone's in brig. Is it a Boinc standard? Or "not yet, but soon to be..."?
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Message 4792 - Posted: 27 Jan 2007 | 11:42:58 UTC - in response to Message 4791.

BTW, I like it how clearly is it shown that someone's in brig. Is it a Boinc standard? Or "not yet, but soon to be..."?

No, David Anderson didn't want it as an option. It would hack too much into a person's privacy if it were shown he was banned...
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Message 4793 - Posted: 28 Jan 2007 | 16:59:06 UTC - in response to Message 4792.

BTW, I like it how clearly is it shown that someone's in brig. Is it a Boinc standard? Or "not yet, but soon to be..."?

No, David Anderson didn't want it as an option. It would hack too much into a person's privacy if it were shown he was banned...


I think it might also cause some other problems. The banned user might try to find a way to 'get back' at the project. Other users might taunt or tease the banned person, as we do now to Misfit.

On the other hand, it's useful for moderators and administrators to see that a user is banned, so it might be that it only shows for them.

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Message 4794 - Posted: 28 Jan 2007 | 17:07:39 UTC - in response to Message 4789.

I've tried to report the message 4788 as offensive (red crossed box), but it didn't work (am I the first one to try this?):
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Thanks for flagging this. The way you configure the report feature seems to have changed since I last looked at it, and I had not set up the list of people to whom the reports are to be mailed. Now that I have the report feature is working.


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Message 4795 - Posted: 28 Jan 2007 | 17:27:08 UTC - in response to Message 4791.

Why does everybody blame Misfit? o_O

Good question - IIRC Misfit always asked us to blame him, didn't he? ;-)

I did fully forgot the prophecy, we talk about Misfit and he's in jail...


I think right now we can blame misfit for sleeping on the job. I put him in the brig for one day, hoping he would then try out the glossary and report back how it worked (or didn't, since he was banned). But it seems he didn't try it.

Misfit, are you willing to help us test this?

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Message 4796 - Posted: 28 Jan 2007 | 17:50:05 UTC - in response to Message 4794.
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I've tried to report the message 4788 as offensive (red crossed box), but it didn't work (am I the first one to try this?):
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Thanks for flagging this. The way you configure the report feature seems to have changed since I last looked at it, and I had not set up the list of people to whom the reports are to be mailed. Now that I have the report feature is working.

All I am getting off late is emails of people moving my posts around. So now it's probably all the red-x reports as well? And when will someone make that icon really a red-x, so the name for it is proper? ;-)

Pfff, I appear not to be on the list. :)

Oh darn, now I am. :-(
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Message 4797 - Posted: 28 Jan 2007 | 20:59:57 UTC - in response to Message 4795.

Why does everybody blame Misfit? o_O

Good question - IIRC Misfit always asked us to blame him, didn't he? ;-)

I did fully forgot the prophecy, we talk about Misfit and he's in jail...


I think right now we can blame misfit for sleeping on the job. I put him in the brig for one day, hoping he would then try out the glossary and report back how it worked (or didn't, since he was banned). But it seems he didn't try it.

Misfit, are you willing to help us test this?


If Misfit is tied up, then feel free to toss me in the brig for a day tomorrow (1/29) and I can probably give it a test while at work.

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Message 4798 - Posted: 28 Jan 2007 | 21:32:55 UTC - in response to Message 4797.

I think right now we can blame misfit for sleeping on the job. I put him in the brig for one day, hoping ...

Misfit, are you willing to help us test this?

If Misfit is tied up, then feel free to toss me in the brig for a day tomorrow (1/29) and I can probably give it a test while at work.

When Scott gets into the brig, may we blame him too?
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Message 4799 - Posted: 28 Jan 2007 | 23:59:39 UTC - in response to Message 4793.
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...it's useful for moderators and administrators to see that a user is banned, so it might be that it only shows for them.

As a not-logged-in visitor, I do not see the tag near Misfit's data.
[edit]Not even as chief. Could the brave Misfit already leave the brig? Is there currently any other volunteer (except Scott)? ;-)[/edit]

Someone being moderator on other Boinc fora, can confirm or deny, whether the mods can see such tags on banned users.
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Message 4801 - Posted: 29 Jan 2007 | 1:19:05 UTC - in response to Message 4799.

Someone being moderator on other Boinc fora, can confirm or deny, whether the mods can see such tags on banned users.

There is no such tag on other forums. As far as I know it's a custom build option by Eric for the Pirates@Home forums, not included as an option (yet?) in the BOINC forums.
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Message 4803 - Posted: 29 Jan 2007 | 2:21:02 UTC - in response to Message 4799.

Pepo Wrote:

Is there currently any other volunteer (except Scott)?

Blast! Toss me in the brig. I dare you.
Let's see if I can do damage from there also.

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Message 4804 - Posted: 29 Jan 2007 | 8:15:22 UTC - in response to Message 4803.

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Is there currently any other volunteer (except Scott)?

Blast! Toss me in the brig. I dare you.
Let's see if I can do damage from there also.

Damned! The whole crew's in the brig!

But who throwed the capt'n in the brig? Maybe Rusty? I hope he'll do no real damage from there ;-)
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Message 4805 - Posted: 29 Jan 2007 | 13:14:37 UTC - in response to Message 4804.

Damned! The whole crew's in the brig!

But who throwed the capt'n in the brig? Maybe Rusty? I hope he'll do no real damage from there ;-)


I put myself in the brig, after I built a little control panel to do so. I wish we had file attachments working so I could show it off. But for now it's reserved for admins, not moderators (er, um, officers, not chiefs).

I've also added an item to a user's account information page: if you are in the brig it shows when your sentence expires. If you've ever been in the brig it shows when you last got out. This is only shown to that user, not everybody.
It's also shown on the control panel so that I know your current status. If your sentence is to run another day I can easily change it to just 2 more hours, or pop you out of the brig right away for good behaviour.

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Message 4806 - Posted: 29 Jan 2007 | 13:25:02 UTC - in response to Message 4805.

for good behaviour.

The question then is, what is bad behaviour? Changing your nickname, signature and profile to commence your (political) displeasure?
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Message 4807 - Posted: 29 Jan 2007 | 14:03:15 UTC
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Ah...Feels nice to be out!

As for the Glossary, I could not edit existing entries nor could I create new ones (though the latter is likely due to my seaman ranking). I also could not post on the regular forum.

Now, what I could do is probably not what you want:

1) You will see that I was able to move and retitle entries while in the brig (see the brig moved entry). That is probably not an ability that one should have while in the brig (an angry inmate could think up some creative new entry names).

2) If you take a look at your own talk Cap'n, you will see that I was able to edit it at will. I was able to do so using either the 'edit' tab or the '+' tab. The 'move' feature also would work (I stopped before actually executing the move).

Edit: Just one other quick note...I was still listed in the glossary user list as in the brig until I logged out and back in.



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Message 4808 - Posted: 29 Jan 2007 | 14:13:00 UTC - in response to Message 4807.

My wife blames me for everything anyway, so why not everyone else :)

Sounds quite familiar ;-)
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Message 4809 - Posted: 29 Jan 2007 | 14:15:31 UTC - in response to Message 4806.

...what is bad behaviour? Changing your nickname, signature and profile to commence your (political) displeasure?

OT: There are some stats sites, which keep track of users changing the teams. Is there anyone who keeps track of changed nicks? Sometimes I'd appreciate it.
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Message 4891 - Posted: 3 Feb 2007 | 23:32:18 UTC

When I woke up, I've had a feeling like I were in a brig and a plenty of sharks were all around, trying to snack me... but it doesn't make any sense. It must have been some bad dream.
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Message 4893 - Posted: 4 Feb 2007 | 3:18:07 UTC - in response to Message 4891.

... but it doesn't make any sense. It must have been some bad dream.

Nope, not a dream. But we don't have to dream to not make sense.
Very good to see you beat the sharks! Pirates!

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Message 4936 - Posted: 19 Feb 2007 | 8:38:33 UTC - in response to Message 4782.

Now what's the volunteer tester tag for? Auto-added when someone is a moderator? And how in Hook's name did I become a moderator? ;-)

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Message 4937 - Posted: 19 Feb 2007 | 8:41:27 UTC - in response to Message 4783.

To test whether the banning works I will ban Misfit again, once I find where I put the tool to do it, and we'll see if he ends up in the brig on the wiki. It's only a test. He's performing a valuable duty, as he has many times before. He hasn't done anything wrong (this time :-), and I'll let him out once I return from my travels and/or the test is completed.

I guess my absence exceeded yours. So I was banned? I never received an email notice. So how did I do? Was I put in irons and viciously flogged, or did I escape out through the secret trap door with all your gold?
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Message 4938 - Posted: 19 Feb 2007 | 8:47:43 UTC - in response to Message 4793.

Other users might taunt or tease the banned person, as we do now to Misfit.

Ahahahahahaha! You made me spit on my screen. I'm a sloppy pirate.
Misfit, are you willing to help us test this?

Best to email me if you're scheduling a test. It's 12:45AM so it's just dumb luck I stumbled in here.
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Message 4941 - Posted: 19 Feb 2007 | 9:31:53 UTC - in response to Message 4937.

So I was banned? I never received an email notice.

Neither did I previous times, probably any notification is usually not necessary, I assume the affected persons will mostly notice it immediately :-D

So how did I do? Was I put in irons and viciously flogged, or did I escape out through the secret trap door with all your gold?

You've probably not noticed it, 'cause during your absence you've been foltered "in behalf" (because of absence of your person). (The folter was off course chosen honouring your general Pirates' preferences.)

(BTW, in my case someone have invited sharks in addition to my preferred foltering, but luckily I do not remember at this time period very good.)
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Message 4947 - Posted: 19 Feb 2007 | 19:35:16 UTC - in response to Message 4941.

So I was banned? I never received an email notice.

Neither did I previous times, probably any notification is usually not necessary, I assume the affected persons will mostly notice it immediately :-D

The one time that I was banned (that I know of) I found out because I received a notice.
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Message 4951 - Posted: 19 Feb 2007 | 21:51:47 UTC

If you're banned and you don't notice it, is it really punishment?
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Message 4952 - Posted: 19 Feb 2007 | 23:12:26 UTC - in response to Message 4799.
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...it's useful for moderators and administrators to see that a user is banned, so it might be that it only shows for them.

As a not-logged-in visitor, I do not see the tag near Misfit's data.
[edit]Not even as chief. Could the brave Misfit already leave the brig? Is there currently any other volunteer (except Scott)? ;-)[/edit]

Someone being moderator on other Boinc fora, can confirm or deny, whether the mods can see such tags on banned users.


At the Seti board, the main board, there once were a function where the banned person's posts were hidden, but that function disappeared for reasons unknown to me.

It's being announced on the the mod list when people get banned both on the main board and on the Beta board. So the moderators know. And usually most of the posters know also, as they have seen the behavior that get people banned.




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Message 4953 - Posted: 19 Feb 2007 | 23:13:57 UTC - in response to Message 4936.

Now what's the volunteer tester tag for? Auto-added when someone is a moderator? And how in Hook's name did I become a moderator? ;-)

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