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Message 9264 - Posted: 18 Dec 2014 | 14:46:24 UTC

Ahoy, Avast, and seasonal greetings to the crew of this scurvy bucket, or at least those few who remain on board. We have been adrift for quite a while now, and I'm afraid that may well continue. But I will confess to chumming the waters just now to get the attention of those still onboard.

This year I have set up a new "distributed data" project for the holiday season. It uses your mobile web browser to help locate valuable treasure. You'll find it at http://www.LegLampLocator.com. As an added bonus you will get a small view of the world from inside the captain's cabin (and the captain's own small prize).

We have an international crew, so I'm not sure if everyone here knows why leg lamps are considered to be such great treasures. They are indeed rare, though less so now than before. They are a part of the holiday season for some because of the classic film A Christmas Story, which was based on a collection of stories by Jean Shepherd. You may enjoy the whole movie (it will be on cable TV 24/7 on christmas) but this relevant clip tells this part of the story directly.

So lookouts to the mizzentops, and all spyglasses deployed! Keep a keen eye open as you drive past the holiday lights, and if you be so lucky as to find one, be sure to mark it. If you are lucky enough to have one marked nearby then go and verify that it's actually there, and mark it too if indeed it is. (This bit of the project is similar to having two machines crunch a workunit to verify that the work was actually done and done correctly.)

And spread the word. This won't work without the help of many more than this small crew. Happy holidays and good hunting!
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Message 9267 - Posted: 19 Dec 2014 | 8:20:45 UTC - in response to Message 9264.

Ahoy, Avast, and seasonal greetings to the crew of this scurvy bucket, or at least those few who remain on board. We have been adrift for quite a while now, and I'm afraid that may well continue. But I will confess to chumming the waters just now to get the attention of those still onboard.
Apparently you've found a way to figure out where we are... because:
It uses your mobile web browser to help locate valuable treasure. You'll find it at http://www.LegLampLocator.com.

Yeah, "Please enable Location Services for your browser". This will enable the GPS on your phone, something that I have set to off by default. Do you know how much battery that eats? Nothing said about my phone then logging everywhere I go. Privacy certainly doing a bye bye. Sorry, I value my square meter of the raft, y'all don't need to know every minute what I spent it on.

And spread the word. This won't work without the help of many more than this small crew. Happy holidays and good hunting!

A warning that the above is required would've been nice. But then now people may take my warning as such.
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Message 9268 - Posted: 19 Dec 2014 | 12:57:27 UTC - in response to Message 9267.

Yeah, "Please enable Location Services for your browser". This will enable the GPS on your phone, something that I have set to off by default. Do you know how much battery that eats? Nothing said about my phone then logging everywhere I go. Privacy certainly doing a bye bye. Sorry, I value my square meter of the raft, y'all don't need to know every minute what I spent it on.

The way it works in both iPhone and Android is that it only reports your location if you let it. Each time a web page tries, and you are at a different location, it asks, and if you say no it can't get your location. The "app" won't work without the location, but you have a choice. Just enabling location services in the browser does not automatically report your location continuously, and you have to agree to release your location for each new web page.

In addition, this "app" does assign a unique device ID to each mobile device, but it does not record anything else about you, only the location of the sighting (and possibly the size of the Leg Lamp, but that is optional). I've tried hard to balance privacy interests with the need for data to make it function.

But as always, you are free to participate or not. And I want to make sure everyone knows what they are agreeing to (and not), so this is helpful feedback for me, and it reminds me that I need to improve the "Privacy" page which explains this. Thanks.

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Message 9269 - Posted: 19 Dec 2014 | 22:01:19 UTC

I clicked "Allow once" in the browser location popup and it found my location on a laptop and a desktop, neither of which have any GPS device so it's catching the location from somewhere else, the ISP maybe.
Like Jord, I don't think I'm comfortable with that so I didn't click the "Found one" button.
I already know where I am and there are very few people that would need to know that. Not sure what legitimate purpose this could be put to other than maybe better targeting of local advertising?

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Message 9270 - Posted: 20 Dec 2014 | 0:06:32 UTC - in response to Message 9269.

Not sure what legitimate purpose this could be put to other than maybe better targeting of local advertising?

The purpose of this is for fun.

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Message 9271 - Posted: 20 Dec 2014 | 15:12:39 UTC - in response to Message 9268.

The "app" won't work

That's correct. For testing purposes I told Dolphin to use my location. Tapping "Search nearby" now gives "Position unavailable: Internal error".

That's with Dolphin 11.3.0 with Flash Player disabled (as it was causing more trouble than worth). Dolphin is able to open Google Maps (the phone can even open Google Earth), but not the map that this app pushes.

One niggle other than the fun factor, doesn't finding lamp legs mean we have to peek into other people's houses to see if there's a lamp leg visible? What if they find this objectionable? Or call the police on us because of us being a potential burglar checking out their houses?

Perhaps put an age stamp on it?
The About rules may not be read by everyone.
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Message 9272 - Posted: 20 Dec 2014 | 16:21:59 UTC - in response to Message 9271.

For testing purposes I told Dolphin to use my location. Tapping "Search nearby" now gives "Position unavailable: Internal error".
Thank you for the feedback. It should work with Chrome on Android, and I know it works with Mobile Safari and Chrome on iPhone, but apparently not all mobile browsers include the location feature. Reports for other mobile browsers would be welcome.
... with Flash Player disabled (as it was causing more trouble than worth).
Flash is not used or required, so any trouble you had should be of a general nature, not specific to this site.

Dolphin is able to open Google Maps (the phone can even open Google Earth), but not the map that this app pushes.
I'm using the standard Google Maps API, which works on Chrome and Safari and Firefox. The one thing that the site does rely on is JavaScript, so perhaps the problem is that JavaScript is not enabled in Dolphin? Or for that site? Perhaps I have to add a <noscript> warning to allow JavaScript?

One niggle other than the fun factor, doesn't finding lamp legs mean we have to peek into other people's houses to see if there's a lamp leg visible?
No, not at all. Most people who own a leg lamp display it proudly in the front window, so you should be able to view it from a public location. And those are the only sightings we want. If someone has one in their home but it's not visible from the street then there's no need to report it. The goal is only to show those leg lamps that others can also visit.

And as you have so helpfully noted, this is covered in more detail in the About page, which you can get to by pressing the big button "Find out more..." (or just "About" on smaller screens). But I note that the "Privacy" page is incomplete, so I'll flesh that in a bit more to be clearer. Suggestions for improvement of both are welcomed.

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Message 9273 - Posted: 20 Dec 2014 | 16:44:10 UTC - in response to Message 9272.

Dolphin is able to open Google Maps (the phone can even open Google Earth), but not the map that this app pushes.
I'm using the standard Google Maps API, which works on Chrome and Safari and Firefox. The one thing that the site does rely on is JavaScript, so perhaps the problem is that JavaScript is not enabled in Dolphin? Or for that site? Perhaps I have to add a <noscript> warning to allow JavaScript?

Javascript is available and enabled by default for all pages.
Load images is Always on.
Cookies are accepted.
Dolphin is available for Android an iOS. See their homepage for more info.

One different niggle: why is the quote box here squashed to only use half (or less of) the screen?
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Message 9280 - Posted: 30 Dec 2014 | 2:32:26 UTC - in response to Message 9273.

Dolphin is able to open Google Maps (the phone can even open Google Earth), but not the map that this app pushes.
I'm using the standard Google Maps API, which works on Chrome and Safari and Firefox. The one thing that the site does rely on is JavaScript, so perhaps the problem is that JavaScript is not enabled in Dolphin? Or for that site? Perhaps I have to add a <noscript> warning to allow JavaScript?

Javascript is available and enabled by default for all pages.
Load images is Always on.
Cookies are accepted.
Dolphin is available for Android an iOS. See their homepage for more info.

One different niggle: why is the quote box here squashed to only use half (or less of) the screen?


There was a reason to squash the quotes, but i forget what and it looks silly now for sure. Looks even worse in preview.

Bah. No leg lamps for me.
Not a huge shock since i've never seen any. Ever.
Oh well. Something to look forward to next year!
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Message 9281 - Posted: 9 Jan 2015 | 15:26:06 UTC - in response to Message 9280.

Dolphin is able to open Google Maps (the phone can even open Google Earth), but not the map that this app pushes.
I'm using the standard Google Maps API, which works on Chrome and Safari and Firefox. The one thing that the site does rely on is JavaScript, so perhaps the problem is that JavaScript is not enabled in Dolphin? Or for that site? Perhaps I have to add a <noscript> warning to allow JavaScript?

Javascript is available and enabled by default for all pages.
Load images is Always on.
Cookies are accepted.
Dolphin is available for Android an iOS. See their homepage for more info.

One different niggle: why is the quote box here squashed to only use half (or less of) the screen?


There was a reason to squash the quotes, but i forget what and it looks silly now for sure. Looks even worse in preview.

Bah. No leg lamps for me.
Not a huge shock since i've never seen any. Ever.
Oh well. Something to look forward to next year!

No rest for the wicked. Quote box fixed!

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Message 9283 - Posted: 18 May 2015 | 22:43:16 UTC - in response to Message 9267.

[quote]Ahoy, Avast, and seasonal greetings to the crew of this scurvy bucket, or at least those few who remain on board. We have been adrift for quite a while now, and I'm afraid that may well continue. But I will confess to chumming the waters just now to get the attention of those still onboard.


I am a bit concerned about your purpose of maintaining this project for I have not seen any BOINC activity for months/years. Volunteers spend a considerable amount on equipment and time to help BOINC projects. Your Main Page does state that the project is under constant development but the purpose of running it is is vague. You are not making this clear and neither have you communicated your current status. The last item you placed in the NEWS section was in Sep, 2010, that is over four and a half years ago. This forces volunteers to spend a considerable time to research the project and seek current situation in miriads of Message Board articles to find out if this project is still alive and the likely hood of issuing a work unit. I wonder if continuing the project is worthwhile when Admins do not care to communicate with their volunteers and keeping them up to date.

I am seriously considering recommending that this project be closed.

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Message 9284 - Posted: 19 May 2015 | 9:28:44 UTC - in response to Message 9283.

I am a bit concerned about your purpose of maintaining this project for I have not seen any BOINC activity for months/years.

I am seriously considering recommending that this project be closed.

This was once a project that helped out Einstein. Once that was over it became a just for fun project. It does no real work when it does run. The owner keeps it around kind of as a sentimental item. Work is sent out at least once a year around the Talk Like a Pirate Day in September and has also run most years around the Christmas period. For many of us volunteers that stick around it's like a game to gain our next milestone.

So, in your eyes it is more or less a dead project and you can ignore it. For those of us who enjoy this challenge it's a very wonderful time when we do have work.

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Message 9285 - Posted: 13 Jun 2015 | 10:58:35 UTC

boincstats.com has retired this project.
http://boincstats.com/en/forum/12/10130,1
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Message 9287 - Posted: 16 Jun 2015 | 5:48:40 UTC - in response to Message 9284.
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So, in your eyes it is more or less a dead project and you can ignore it. For those of us who enjoy this challenge it's a very wonderful time when we do have work.

Getting some gold right now.
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Message 9289 - Posted: 16 Jun 2015 | 19:52:04 UTC - in response to Message 9284.

For many of us volunteers that stick around it's like a game to gain our next milestone.


In my case I'm not sure if I'll reach the next milestone before I retire. That's what makes it FUN!!

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